BraveMen S4E149: Dr. Jeff Greenway - Roadmap Through a Hostile Culture

About 10 minutes in the Jeff Greenway's message road map through a hostile culture at Lyons Roar 2022 in November in Dallas, he said this, the heroes and the warriors of the kingdom will walk with a limp because they've counted the cost, wrestled with God, and he's marked them for life. What Jeff laid out in about just about 25, 30 minutes was something I'd been thinking about for seven or eight years. In fact, I'd articulated it to a number of friends, I won't give it away, you'll hear it when he says it, but it's something I'd been thinking about working towards in Jeff Greenway. This remarkable thinker and leader put it in a package so well that I want you to hear it, I want you to tell somebody about it, send it to someone, I'm sending it to friends, I know. That's why we put it on this podcast. Lyons Roar takes place the first weekend of November every year for the Christian men's network, cmn-summit.com. There's the website for that, cmn.men is our website, all the tools you need in your local church or group to disciple men, to be a servant leader and see changes happen when you reach a heart of a man, you save the future of a child. I believe that with all of my heart, which is why we're doing everything we do all over the world and over 100 nations, cmn.men. Today I'm brave men. You'll meet my friend, Jeff Greenway, I put this in the description, I said, he's a fly fisherman who's also a pastor, but I thought that was funny because he is an avid fly fisherman, an outdoorsman, a great man. I met him a number of years ago when he picked up maximize manhood and realized that he needed to navigate his men through a process of discipleship at Reynoldsburg, one of the most significant Methodist churches in North America and now because of the new global Methodist church, one of the most significant churches around the world. And Jeff, grab maximize manhood, started taking his key men through it and through the discipleship process that we have and then called me and said, would you come speak? And I did and we became friends quickly and he spoke at lines where this is that message that has rocked my world. I wanted you to hear it. It is navigating through the cultural chaos and which we live with a clarity from the word of God. You know, I heard somebody the other day said, you know, we're all waiting for a word, but we have it. It's the word of God. It's the Bible. And he uses that, uses the cultural trends and everything else overlays that, but uses the fulcrum and the context of the word of God to bring us to where we are today and what the future of the church is. What is it? You'll hear it today on Brave Men. It's Brave Men with Paul Lewis Cole, wisdom and courage for the journey. Wow, it is great to be here. Greetings from Columbus, Ohio. I'm a Penn State fan that lives in Columbus, Ohio. So go ahead, say, oh, hey, again, PA, okay. Great to be here. Before I get started, I just want to say a word about this kit right here. Ten years ago, I came home from our worldwide denominational gathering and I knew that the tradition I'm a part of had passed the Rubicon, it was not going to come back from apostasy. And I began leading my local church through a process that is actually resulted on September 25th, we voted at 95% that we're leaving the United Methodist Church. And two weeks from this Saturday, our annual conference will vote to let us out. But when I first came back and began to talk to my board, they had a deer in the headlight kind of look. And I began to be very convinced that I needed to raise up a group of leaders who had come along side of us to help us get ready to do that. And about seven, eight years ago, I came across the Christian, the Christian ministry kit here and we began to implement that in the life of our church. Seven years ago, we had Paul come and speak to a gathering that represented about 15 churches, 300 men came to meet in one of our worship spaces for that particular day. And I would tell you that every Saturday morning, the max men Bible study gathers in one of our rooms at the church building. And we have between 75 and 85 guys every Saturday morning. And I would tell you, they are warriors. We stand back to back, shoulder to shoulder. And I looked around that room last Saturday knowing I was going to be coming here thinking about how that group began very small fashion. And they are leaders in their homes. They are leaders in our church. They are leaders in our community. And they have my back. And we would never have been able to do what we were able to do if it hadn't been for the impact of this box and the lives of hundreds of men in our community and our church. So I want to thank CMM for providing resources like that. It's also great for me to be here with Paul. He's been a hero of mine for a while. But before Paul was Paul, his dad was a hero. I'm old enough to remember the promise keeper's movement and what a significant shaper of that movement he was. And all the good that came out of that, I'm just honored to be here. Let's see. I'm here to talk about what is like the lead in a hostile culture. And I've got a little bit of experience with that. And as well as not only generally speaking, but it's really difficult when a church culture becomes hostile to historic Christianity. And about six years ago, I was selected to lead a group called the Western Covenant Association. And we put together a team of people from all over the world to begin to build what has now become the global methodist church at launch in May. And early on, we recognized that we were the last, you know, Methodist or the last of the main lines to fall to the heresy of our day. And the only reason we hadn't fallen at this point was because it was an international church and the international block was so solidly evangelical that they would not allow that to happen. But when those who were responsible for the Methodist movement decided they weren't going to, they weren't going to enforce our agreed upon covenant any longer. It became unenforceable, ungovernable, and the thing began to unravel at the seams. So we formed this body to begin to build something new. Early on that process, we brought in some leaders from other communities that had been where we are. And we spent a day with them at the Atlanta Airport. They flew in and spent time with us. And there were two groups of bishops that came in that day. There was a group, there was a couple Lutheran and Anglican bishops who came in to meet with us. And then the afternoon, there were some United Methodist bishops that came in to meet with us. I want to talk about the United Methodist bishops first. They walked in the room in $1,000 suits, expensive shoes, polished up, like they were walking into a Fortune 500 company. And they said, we have a plan you need to trust us. That did not go well for them. But in the morning, the reason it didn't go well for them was in the morning. We had these two Lutheran and two Anglican bishops come in and talk with us about what they've been through. And let me just tell you, the humility and grace with which they walked was so attractive I would have followed them anywhere. And it was clear to me that they had been through it. They had looked into the eye of everything that they thought was important. They counted the cost. And when the time was right, they laid aside everything. They'd stake their careers on to take an unpopular, less traveled path. They walked with a limp. And I would have followed them anywhere. But I want to talk with you tonight about today is learning to embrace the fact that if you're going to lead courageously in a hostile culture wherever that is, you're going to walk with a limp. In fact, I'd go back to what Paul said earlier, the heroes and the warriors of the kingdom will walk with a limp because they've counted the cost, wrestled with God, and he's marked them for life. Now, King David was an interesting character in the Bible. There are three cities of significance in David's story. The first city is Bethlehem, the place where he was born. That was where he was the last son of Jesse, you know, the run of the litter, the Samuel kept saying, no, not that one, no, not that one, no, not that one. Finally, they got the kid who was knee deep and sheeped it and they brought him and he said, that's the one. And he anointed this pimple-faced kid. Bethlehem was the place of anointing. It was the place of promise. But it would take him 25, 30 years to live into the third story, the third city that was important to his life. And that was the city of Jerusalem, the capital. That was the place of fulfillment. Between promise and fulfillment, there was a place called Zicklag. Zicklag was the place where David went on the run from Saul while he was serving as a mercenary for the Philistines. And it was at Zicklag, this out of the way, broken down place, that God began to send all kinds of people into David's presence who had become the army that would back him when the time was right after Saul and Jonathan had been killed. And after he had captured all of the booty that had been taken by some of the people that had raided Zicklag and he captured it all and redistributed it to the rest of the Israelite tribes. And it was those men who stood up along with the leaders of those tribes that says, you're the king. Zicklag is a very important place. Now in First Chronicles, I'm sorry, in First Chronicles chapter 12, it's a story of it records for us the assemblage of all the people that came to Zicklag and were supporting David and Zicklag. And I would tell you that there are all the tribes are mentioned in different clans in the tribes. There are 50,000 from this tribe and 150,000 from that tribe. But there's one tribe that's mentioned, that one clan that's mentioned, and it's the smallest of all the references. But it's really important for us to understand today. And it's from Zicklag, from Issacar, the tribe of Issacar, men who understood the times and knew what Israel should do. They understood the signs of the times. And they knew what Israel should do. 200 chiefs and all their relatives under control. Now you go back and read First Chronicles 12 later tonight. You'll see that's the smallest number referenced in the whole assemblage of that. But I would contend that having people who could understand the times, even those small and number were crucial for the success of everything that would follow for David. Zicklag was a place where he learned to recognize the gifts of everyone and these men who could understand the signs of the times knew what Israel should do. So I want to ask you a question. Do you know what time it is? I mean, yeah, it's a little bit after two in the afternoon. That's not what I'm talking about. Do you understand the time in which we're living? Do you understand the signs of the times around us? Can you see what time it is? Earlier this month I was traveling in Romania with some mission partners there and I was reading through Psalm 90 and I saw in Psalm 90 the contrast between two different kinds of time. There's Kairos time, which is God's time. It's everything from beginning to end and Psalm 90 verse four tells us that a thousand years in your sight, God, are like a day that has just gone by or like a watch in the night. In other words, the evening we have today in Kairos time is a thousand years, which by the way, you know what that means? It means that when time as we know it rolls up like a scroll and Jesus comes again and welcomes all of us home and we are forever with the Lord, we will so know sooner be there, whether we die before he comes or when he comes, we will know sooner be there than everyone we've ever known will be there with us. Those who die in faith. Kairos time is infinite in capacity. God gives us incredible grace by not judging us according to Kairos time, but rather I'm sorry, he puts us in Kronos time, which is the second kind of time, which is also in Psalm 90 verse 12. Kronos time, chronological time, the psalmist says, teach us the number our days that we may gain a heart of wisdom. And I've been thinking over the over the while, why is it that our time, our Kronos time seems to crawl along while God's Kairos time lasts forever? You know why it is? So he gives us the time to turn our hearts toward him. He gives us the capacity to be awakened to the Spirit. He gives us the opportunity over and over again to respond to the grace has been given to us. Now here's what I know. God keeps time on Kairos time. We keep time on Kronos time, but the best way to leave your life and my life is when we align our Kronos time with God's Kairos time. I believe we're living in a time where God's Kairos time is coming to bear upon the people who align their lives with him. Several years ago, I read a book by a guy named Lauren Mead entitled The Once in Future Church. And he chronicled in that book four distinct periods of Christian history that I want to share with you today because I believe we're living in a very significant point in history. We're living in a crack in history that is an incredible opportunity for men of this men of this car who understand the signs of the times. So the first era he talks about is the apostolic era. This is the era that existed from the crucifixion of Jesus, crucifixion, death and resurrection of Jesus until 315 AD. This is the period of the New Testament. And if you take a look at that diagram, you'll notice there's all kinds of little circles that represents all the different sects that were available or were operative in the Roman Empire. And one of them has a cross in it. That's a reminder to us that in the apostolic era, the era of the New Testament Church, Christianity was a minority sect in a pagan culture. There were two groups of people that were dead set against the successful movement of the church. On the one hand were the Romans for whom Christianity was illegal. And if you are caught to be practicing the Christian faith, a Roman governor because it was not a recognized sect could have you executed in any way they chose to do so. No appeal, do not pass go, do not collect $200 straight to the cross, you die. On the other side was the Jewish community that hated the Christian community because they saw it as being disobedient to all of their tradition and religion. In fact, if a Jewish person crossed the line of faith and put their faith in Jesus, their family would hold a funeral because it was like their child had died. Now, I want you to note in this apostolic era, the spiritual gifts are operative, the decision to follow Jesus was a before and after moment. One day you were one moment, you were one way, another way, another moment, you were a different way. Your life was transformed. This is the church we read about in the New Testament. I can remember for a good part of my adult life, I've been praying, oh God, do that again. I'd like to see you do that again. Wouldn't you like to see God do that again? But here's what happened. The Christian faith flourished during those first 300 years. Flourished to the point that by the time we get to 315, it's now a growing movement and at 315, the second era, is when Constantine's mother, Helena, convinced him that Christians shouldn't be executed for everything. Some historians would tell you that's when Constantine was baptized. I haven't believed it happened a little bit later. It was the influence of his Christian mother, but he legalized Christianity. And over the next 60 years, Christianity took the Roman world by storm. So by the time we get to 375 AD, the emperor's name is Theodosia, which means God Noah. And from that point on, the church and the state acted as one. That's why it's called the Holy Roman Empire. Church and state functioned together. So the church determined the morals of the state and the state was influenced by the church. Now I need to tell you, the next though 1,400 years did not have some of our finest hours in it. Crusades, not our finest hour. But the working of the church and the state functioning together had an incredible cultural influence on the formation of the Western world. I live in Ohio now. I grew up in Western Pennsylvania. If you go in any county seat and either one of the states, I spent the majority of my life in, you go into the county seat and on the square of the county seat, you'll see a courthouse on one end of the city square. What's on the other end? A church. And if you take a look at the history of that town, the players in that courthouse were the players in that church. And the players in that church were the players in that courthouse. Some of us are old enough to remember blue laws. Were the church determined that you weren't allowed to have business on Sunday. All kinds of things. There were all kinds of residual evidence of this. But here's the problem. When you're in the Apostolic era, following Jesus before and after a moment, when all of a sudden you're in a Christendom era, conversion is not necessary because you're born into a Christian culture. So how do you mark the journey from cradle to grave in a culture that says you're born Christian? Will you sacramentalize it? That's why in the Catholic tradition there are seven sacraments. It marks a person journey from cradle to grave. There's baptism and then there's confession and then there's confirmation and then there's a sacrament of communion and then you get a choice. You can marry a person in Christian marriage or you can marry the church in ordination. And then you live your life out until you get oil on your head when you die. Last rights, extreme action. And you die in a state of grace. The challenge with that is the priest became the distributors of grace, which was right for all kinds of corruption. And there really was no transformation of the person from before Christ to in Christ. They were just born into a Christian culture which meant the religion became the order of the day. So the Christendom era that some people yearn to get back to is a period of religion, not relationship. And which the church sold out the mission of Jesus for the power of the institution. And so what happens during what let me just tell you, I've learned over the years that institutions, you know what they do? They exist to protect themselves. And when an institution feels that it's being threatened, those responsible to be the custodians of that institution will break whatever rule they need to, even their core ethos to wipe out the threat. Institutional Christianity has hurt apostolic Christianity. So after about 1400 years of the church and state functioning together with an unholy dance, in the 1700s, another era was birthed. This was the enlightenment era. This is the time of the industrial revolution, the age of reason, the increase of the scientific method. And because the Christian experience from the Christian era did not result in authentic life change, but rather anointing people, inoculating them against a real life changing experience of Jesus, those who were of a scientific mind became incredibly skeptical of anything they could improve in a petri dish or by a mathematical equation. And all of a sudden you have all kinds of people beginning to cast the shadow of the doubt on whether the scriptures are true because they're not always seeing the results of that being lived out around them. Now I'm not saying there were authentic Christians during the Christian era. I'm just saying that was not the way people came to faith. They were born and sacramentalized into the faith, but they didn't cross the line of faith and surrender their hearts to Jesus. Now I would note that during the 1700s there were several great revival movements that took place. One of them is the Methodist movement. I'm a part of that. That's the the cradle, that's the the fireplace in which my experience of faith was birth, but I would tell you the institution and the scientific or cultural community fought against those movements tooth and nail because they were threatened by something that was experiential and not just logical or religious. It's not lost on me that the United States was birth during the Enlightenment era. And one of the things we're known for is the separation of church and state. And sometimes the way the church has tried to deal with that is to go back to a Christian in the era where we have influence over the political square because we've elected the right people into this into space. That's that's playing a different game than Jesus wants us to play. Now in the 1970s or a little before a little bit after things began to change again. They began to change because because the rise of secular humanism, the antagonism toward authentic Christian faith and open rebellion against anything that was holy. And I would contend to you and so would learn me that we're not living in a postmodern pre-Christian era again. And if you look at that, what does it look like? It doesn't look like the Enlightenment era. It doesn't look like the Christian era. What does it look like? We're once again in the place where we're becoming a minority sect in a prevailing pagan culture. Which you know what that means? God has us right where he wants us. He's stripping away all of this other stuff. He's stripping away. We learned from history but he's stripping away a spirit of religion. He's stripping away a skeptical view. And he's once again in the last 50 years or so. It's almost like God has pulled back the curtain of scripture and allowed us to rediscover some things. When Luther started the Protestant Reformation over 500 years ago, he said there were three primary tenets to the Reformation. Sola Fidei were saved by faith alone. Sola scripturea that the scriptures is a sufficient rule of faith and practice. But the last one was the priesthood of all believers. Luther never quite got there. It wasn't until the Azusa street revival and some other great movements of God in which the spirit has begun to pour out on all flesh again and a way that people are actually open to it that God has pulled back the curtain and has allowed the spiritual gifts to be seen and operative again. And what's happening is just like in the apostolic era, conversion is becoming a before and after moment. Which is evidenced by the presence of the spirit of God, which is evidenced by life change. Which is not about a spirit of religion and controlling of an institution but rather it's more mental. It's intended to change the human heart, which then in turn changes a life, which then in turn changes a family, which then in turn changes a culture, it's not about an institution, it's about a movement of God. Do you understand what time it is? We're living in a new apostolic era. Make hay while the sun is high friends, because the time is right. We're living in a post-modern pre-Christian world and the future will not be found in institutional church, which is crumbling by the way under its own inability to understand transcendent truth. And the future that God holds for us will be found in the spirit of the New Testament. So I want to just in these few moments I have left. I just want to share with you a road map for how you as a man can lead your family and your church through a hostile culture in the time in which we live. The first one is this. Think movement, not institution. Think movementally. This isn't about the name on the front of a building. This is about the character and the heart of the people inside of the building. This is about something bigger than preserving a brand. This is about tapping back into what the spirit of God is doing in our world today. Think movement, not institutions. Once again, institutions exist to preserve themselves. And that is antithetical what Jesus said. Jesus said, if anyone would come after me, you must deny yourself, take up your cross and follow me. Because whoever is going to save their life institution will lose it. But whoever is willing to lose their life for my sake and the gospels will save it. So think movementally, not in terms of institutions. The second thing I want to share is cultivate relationship, not religion. Cultivate relationship, not religion. When Nicodemus came to see Jesus at night in John chapter 3, he is the representative of the institution and countering the son of God who has come to offer relationship. And the clash that began there would finally end later when Nicodemus would declare faith, but it was because Jesus refused to cow-tow to institutional stuff. He was more concerned about the heart of the man than he was about their religious sensibilities that he represented. So think in terms of relationship and not religion. All of us need to have places in which we're known fully and fully known. And the best way that happens from a New Testament sense is in a small group of people called a house church where there might be a dozen folks that share life together and do life together. By the way, it's the same thing Jesus did that with Nicodemus Paul did the same thing in Athens. He tried to confront the institution of religion. It did not go well for him. He learned something between Athens and Corinth. And by the time he got the Corinth, he was on message and invited them into relationship with Jesus. I think it's a sucker's play that tried to rescue institutions. I think it's a kingdom play to invest in relationships. The third suggestion I have for us is be salt and light. Don't be salty and dim. God called Jesus. The scriptures call us to be holy. Now holiness is not a moral code where you don't drink or swear a smoker to and never date the girls who do. That's not what he's talking about. He's talking about allowing the spirit of God to shape our character in such a way that are at the grace of God leaks out in every area of our lives. We need to be continually filled with the Holy Spirit. You know why? Because we leak. At least we should. And when we leak, we grow other people. I'm not talking about toxic perfectionism here, which by the way is impossible to attain to begin because the world around us does not need a group of people who say they believe in Jesus, but don't live any differently than the world around them. We need to be as distinctive, a salt and light, not salty or dim. So let your light so shy before people that they'll see your good works, Doug, and they'll give glory to your father who's in heaven and they'll be drawn to him to live a life that's so attractive, so distinctively different. If somebody would come up to you and say, can you give me the reason you live this way? As Peter says, always be ready to give an accounting for the hope that you have. But do so with gentleness and respect. The next suggestion I have is holiness, not carnal. In Paul's letters, he talks about three different kinds of man. He talks about the natural man, which is the way we're born dead in sin with a heart that's not toward anything that's related to God. And then he talks about the spiritual man, which is who we become when we place our faith in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. But then he talks about the carnal man. And I would just tell you, one of the evidences of Christendom and the enlightenment is carnality among Christians. A carnal person is a person who's placed their faith in Jesus, but they've not surrendered to Jesus as Lord. So they don't look any different than the people around them because they still live the life they used to live. Walk away from that, live a holy kind of life, live holiness, not carnality, holiness, not carnality. The next suggestion I have is you got to lock arms with other people. You can't do this alone. I already told you about my band of brothers that meet with me every Saturday morning. I thank God for them. But let me tell you the coolest thing that's happened among those guys. They are now breaking up in groups of four. We call them bands. And those four, those groups of four are doing life on life, high accountability. Nothing is held back in that conversation in which they're bringing the very best out of one another and they're helping each other be formed in the likeness of Jesus. They are not playing games. They are being transformed and they locked their arms like Ecclesiastes 4 says, you know, back to back, shoulder to shoulder, you know, defending one another. Another suggestion I have for you is get good at showing honor. Show honor. I would tell you that it doesn't do you any good to do it in your church if you're not going to do it in your house. Ephesians 5 tells us that we should submit to one another out of reference for Christ. I love reading that passage at weddings because, you know, the dude's feeling pretty good about that. Submit, you know, why submit to your husbands and everything as to the Lord? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude's saying, yep, told you it's in there. He's supposed to do everything I tell you to do. Listen to me. And I say, hey, you're feeling pretty good about this, but listen to what comes out next. Husbands, love your wives as what? Christ loved the church. What did Jesus do for the church? Oh, he died for the church. Oh, you mean, and I'm not just talking about physical death. I'm talking about dying to agenda. I'm talking about dying to power. I'm talking about dying to the need to be right all the time. I'm talking about dying to crushing her spirit and helping her live in such a way that she flourishes to be the person God had in mind when she first thought of creating her. I love the story of the creation in Genesis chapter 2. You know, there's nobody for the guy to spend his life with. So God says, he causes a deep sleep, fall upon the man and takes one of his ribs and closes up its place with flesh and he fashions that rib into a woman and she brings her to the man and like, dude says, wow, man. No, that's not what he said. He said, this at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She will be called woman for she was taken out of man. And for this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two will become one flesh. I want you to note something about that passage. Woman was not taken from man's foot so she could be trampled over by him. And she was not taken from man's head so she could lord herself over him. She was taken from man's side so that she could walk beside him and from under his arm says she could be protected by him and from next to his heart so that she'd always been revered and loved by him. That's how you show honor is remembering what she was created for and celebrating that. And if you can do that with your wife then it really becomes a lot easier not to exasperate your children. But set them an example of faith and conduct. I'm 62 years old. My kids are 38, 36 and 35. There have been times in the last several years where I've come to realize that there were places I misstepped and misspoke and mishandled things when they were younger. And in their adult lives I called them up and said, hey, do you remember when and most of the time they do and I say I just need to tell you I was wrong. I'm so sorry. A lot of us are afraid that we're going to lose something if we do that. You will not lose a thing. I remember the first time my dad ever apologized for me for being wrong. I'd known he was wrong all along. But when he acknowledged that he grew to be a giant in my eyes. Honor show honor in your home and finally align your God's chronos time with your chiro's time. You were put on the planet for such a time as this. My prayer is that God will teach us to number our days and give us a heart for what is right. And as he does with a limp walk with a limp. Let's stand for prayer together. God we have a keen awareness of the signs of the times in which we live. We see it all around us. Forgive us for those times when we've thought about a human solution and help us to lean into a spiritual solution. We surrender ourselves to be a New Testament people. To give up our desiring to have power and control but we give it and rest it to you understanding that you are good and you'll do exceedingly abundantly more with our lives than we can to ask or imagine. Help us to be the leaders that you call us to be. Help us to be champions. Help us to be warriors. But as we do so, help us to walk with a limp so no one will ever be confused from who the power comes. We ask in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. You've been listening to Jeff Greenway on the Brave Men podcast. Jeff Greenway is a former president of Asbury Theological Seminary. Now the pastor of Reynoldsburg Methodist Church and Columbus, Ohio area and also one of the founders of the global Methodist movement, the Wesleyan movement and a thought leader around the world. A man that thousands and I mean that in that larger number. I don't mean that's not parenthetical or evangelistic. Thousands of leaders around the world look to him for leadership and you've just been able to spend some time with him. Listen to him. C-M-N dot men is our website. All the tools you need for the cycling men, growing strong men to carry out the message that the Dr. Greenway just articulated. We are pre-Christian, guys. We are this is it. This is I believe the greatest churches have not yet been built. I believe some of the greatest moves that God are about to happen. We're seeing it in different parts of the world where I live in the United States. We see it in small pockets. But I believe the book of acts is true when God wrote through the heart of a man in the last days. God says I will pour out my spirit on everyone. Man, and that's where I live. That's where we live at Christian Men's Network. Thanks for being with us. Thanks for being a friend. Thank you to those who are partners with us on a monthly basis and a regular basis and make this possible. C-M-N dot men at the website. 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